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Saturday, July 18, 2009

This is Hysterical!!!

See Conan/Peter Saxon/aka small man cut down to size!!!! It seems Isy has summed you up Conan in a very brief period and many people share his view not only of you but of the whole www.familylawwebguide site. And your traffic figure is another thing you lie about...we have seen Wayne and Michael Green brag about figures of 1,000,000 hits a month when the actual figure (easily accessed via the net and various sources) are only 1,500 hits per day which is not even 100,000 per month. We figure you have to justify the spending of Australian Government money somehow and none of you can tell the truth. Which brings us to another issue, we believe that the funding you did obtain was gained through dishonesty and we intend to follow this through. We believe you should be made to pay back the funds you have misapropriated from the Australian people and it is our mission to ensure that you do.
As snarly as you have lost ground now that they are winding back the changes to Family Law, you sure will be a lot grumpier then.


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Actually, I have enjoyed u site but time to go. I am under the impression, but not because of this thread, that u family law weguide community in the main is on the side of the judges and the lawyers, over and above the people.. The family law reform asssoc appears as a way to promote get a lawyer. Your self rep section is not open to view, etc. etc.. Thanks guys bye. ps, how do I remove my details of email, password etc..
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isy said

Actually, I have enjoyed u site but time to go. I am under the impression, but not because of this thread, that u family law weguide community in the main is on the side of the judges and the lawyers, over and above the people.
What a daft thing to say, how on Earth can you make such an absurd comment? Perhaps balanced posts are not your thing?

isy said

The family law reform asssoc appears as a way to promote get a lawyer.
Have you ever been to an FLRA meeting? Another preposterous statement!

isy said

Your self rep section is not open to view, etc. etc..
The self rep area can be joined, they have private areas to protect the posters, surely you managed to read that? I would like to know if you ever took the SRL-R Quiz and the result because that would show us just how much you really don't know!

isy said

Thanks guys bye. ps, how do I remove my details of email, password etc..
I think the real reason is that you have come onto this site dispensing outmoded concepts, soap boxing (10,000 matters) and realize that many people are far more knowledgeable than yourself.

I notice one of the moderators caught you out making a guest post which is a sure sign of a lurker.
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Of all the posters I found conans to be a bit rude and stupid often, so it seems we have the same view of each other. And it is true in my opinion only, u site does not match other groups all that well. Conan seems to have a jealous streak. poor, fellow, u know it is a sin.
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Posted Yesterday, 06:39 PM
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Of all the posters I found conans to be a bit rude
Perhaps because I cannot bear idiots lightly? Only a bit rude? I must be having an off week.

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opinion only, u site does not match other groups all that well.

Then where are these marvelous other sites PLEASE!

I visit a few sites and when factual questions are asked people are invariably referred to this site.

As I understand the traffic to this site absolutely dwarfs all the other sites.

PS You did not respond to my statements about the FLRA, why some of the self rep areas are private and any of your Quiz results!
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Posted Yesterday, 06:51 PM
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U just admitted to being very rude, so why are u on this site? And people like myself do not link rude idiots or strange persons to other sites who may have to put up with u. U see, I always win
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Posted Yesterday, 07:42 PM
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isy said

U see, I always win

That remark really says a lot about you. From some of your previous posts you are a legend in your mind. Your opinions about Family Law seem as ill founded as some of you ill researched other opinions.

Is it possible that you could just answer rather than avoid:

Why your comments about the FLRA
Where are these marvelous other sites?
Why don't you understand that the self reps have private areas to protect their posters
Why lurk as a guest

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Posted Yesterday, 07:56 PM
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Your assumptions are amusing. In a game of wits, you will find it difficult to win, as I alway do. If you had have asked politely, I may have responded more fully, however, I can only repeat, I will not be directing you anywhere.
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Sunday, June 14, 2009

Wayne Butler Owns Fathers4Equality as well...

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THERE REALLY ARE ONLY A FEW PLAYERS IN FATHERS RIGHTS IN AUSTRALIA AND AS MUCH AS THEY WANT US ALL TO BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY, THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 10 KEY PLAYERS WHO HAVE THEIR HAND IN ALL OF THE PIES...SPCA, DADS ON THE AIR, FAMILY LAW REFORM FATHERS4EQUALITY ETC ETC AND THEY ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.

THEY SEEK TO DECEIVE US ALL...THE MEMBERS, THE GOVERNMENT, YOU AND ME.

IT IS A MEASURE OF THEIR CHARACTER AND JUST HOW LITTLE SUPPORT THEY REALLY HAVE FOR THEIR ISSUES.

THEY ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LIARS. STAY TUNED MORE WILL BE REVEALED.

Peter Saxon is a liar.

---- Forwarded Message ----
From: Peter Saxon <peter_sxn@yahoo.com.au>
To: fathers4equality@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 30 August, 2008 7:03:49 PM
Subject: Re: [fathers4equality] letter from FAMILY LAW REFORM ASSOC. NSW Inc.

All this back and forth discussion is clouding some of the facts and more information.

Firstly Michael Green and the SPCA have been outspoken critics of Section 121. The FLRA website evens contains an article of why they think ‘it’ should be rewritten.

Coral Slattery heads up the FLRA which is an independent organisation and a member of the SPCA. Apart from providing many submissions to the HORSIP inquiry they do a lot of work on schools policies. There is a recent article about their attempts to get the Attorney General to implement a Nationwide schools information policy for the ‘other parent’.

Michael Green is a retired QC

Michael Green is the president of the SPCA

Family Courts in Australia are not secret Courts and this be may be why Michael Green did not respond in the way you though he should have. The Courts are open and Judgments are published. It is the anonymity of these publications that causes these organisations to rail against Section 121. That said ‘any’ judgment can be ‘anonymised’ and published.

Both these organisation house their web sites on the familylawwebguide portal and both have forums on that site. I am aware that very much tougher rules apply to posts made on flwg because unlike this closed email site, it is a public site and has some tough posting and moderator rules. The site also has ‘go forward’ groups on it that do not appear to tolerate whingers and what they constantly refer to as ‘hot air merchants’. Their agendas are clearly legislative reforms and legislative fine tuning. I suppose with the incredible success of flwg they want to keep it focused.

There are several articles on flwg about a recent meeting with the AG. At this meeting were Coral Slattery, Wayne Butler (Secretary SPCA) and Michael Green. One of the Agenda items was the mis use of AVOs to prevent contact. Other items included the SPCAs long standing opposition to the mis use of Rice and Asplund. This is all public material and freely available on the flwg site.

Have things changed? Well over the past week I have spoken to three Fathers that were in Goulburn Street. Within the same period of a week all three had orders that three years ago no one would have dreamed possible. Two of these were srl’s and part of the SRL Resources mob on the flwg. I am also a member of that group and I understand that is not a member of the SPCA although several of its senior people have been offered SPCA postions. If anything this is one group that because of their constant frontline experience can tell whether there have been changes in the way the Courts work.

Monday, May 4, 2009

Michael Green posts SRL applicants private information for all to read



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Emails and then two mobile calls and I spoke with him for an hour this evening. Has a mention on Wednesday.

Had to go over very basic stuff for the hearing.

Melbourne FMC case. Is applying to join.

Any comments?

Hi I emailed you last night from the sit requesting any assistance you may be able to give. I have a court date in Maqgistrates Court on this�Wenesday. I have attached my affadavit and intiating application to this email for you to have a look at. I am representing myself. The thing I wanted to know was if on the day both parties agree to most things in the interim orders can we put those into interim consent orders and then can I have the judge just rule on the items in dispute. I have requested a family consultant do a report and also that a lawyer be appointed to represent the childs best interests. As I have put forward interim and final orders and the main thrust of it is that in the interim the childs contact with me be reinstatedthat has been happening fotr the last 10 months. And the the expert�do a family report for the final hearing.�Thanks and I realise you may not be able to help this time as such short notice but I will continue to correspond with you as case goes on. I think this will be a great resource for me. My member name is " bestinterests" on the website.
Thanks again

Hi ,
I only just found your site and it seems a awesome and just what I was looking for. I wanted to enquire if you can have a look at my Iniating Application and Affidavit . I filed them on 30th of April and have my first court date on 8th of May in the Federal Magistrates Court. I know its last minute but any help now and through out the case would be much help. I spent a total of 6 days straight typing and researching the law to come up with what I did and realise it could have been done better.

But none the less I have been as through and honest as I can.If you can have a look before then and give me any feedback that would be great.

I also wanted to know I have applied for interim orders and final orders. On the court date if both parties agee on the majority of the interim orders can we ask for them to be made into consent orders and ask the Judge to rule on the items in dispute. The items im sure the other party will not agree on are 1. Asking that the childs best interests be represented by a lawyer and that a family consultant be instructed to prepare a family report. These two things I feel are important for gathering evidence and the childs best interests being represented at the final hearing.

I have read all relevant rules and guidelines for the site and like the idea of being able to assist others where I can as I do a lot of volunteer work already.I will send the affidavit and application to my personal space as recommended. Understand it may be too late this time but hope you can help with further appearances as I will be a self represented litigant throughout the the entire process,

Thanks



(He actually sent the emails back to front - he misspelled an email address)



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Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Coral Slattery says Child Sexual Abuse Allegations are RARE!

Coral Slattery (Nemos Mum on Familylawwebguide) and Executive of Shared Parenting Council of Australia, SRL Executive and Executive of Family Law Reform Association says that it is rare for men now to be accused of sexually molesting their children in Family Law matters.


"Dear Michael

I’m sorry to be so late in answering your last email regarding comments made by Michael Green, Q.C.

Michael Green played an integral part in the Family Law reforms which were recently introduced into Australia and endorsed by our association. These innovative reforms have made it possible to move away from litigation and the court system with the introduction of 64 Family Relationship Centres throughout Australia, whose main focus is to encourage the use of early intervention through free counselling and mediation. From my understanding, less than 5% of cases now end up in the Family Court.

Might I add that we’ve now had the opportunity of looking back over three decades to see the damage done to children when parents are consumed by their own situation. Many of the children who have experienced family breakdown have grown up living in poverty because of the exorbitant costs associated with litigation and have been totally alienated from one half of their extended family, not to mention the social costs. This is why it is imperative that we do all we can to keep couples out of the Family Court where a judge will make a decision, rather than an agreement between the parents. We recognise the fact that changing the culture of marriage breakdown won’t happen overnight; in fact, it may take a decade for separating couples to realise that the welfare of their children is their first priority.

I note that you mentioned the case of Hal Ginges, a solicitor in Katoomba. Hal spoke at one of our meetings about 10 years ago on child sexual abuse allegations and we are fully aware of his case. We hold monthly meetings and I can say it is rare these days that we have anyone attending who has been accused of child sexual abuse. A few years ago it seemed to be the “norm” following marriage breakdown, but the courts have now tightened up on those allegations.

I hope that my comments are helpful to you in understanding what we’re trying to achieve. These are my own personal views, but would be endorsed by the majority of our members. Things are changing here in Australia and we’re optimistic about the future for family law reform. Our aim is to keep separating couples out of the Family Court and into counselling and mediation. However, it would be naïve of us not to recognise the fact that “one size does not fit all” and inevitably there will always be cases which have to go to the Family Court.

Take care

Coral

Coral SLATTERY

Honorary Secretary

FAMILY LAW REFORM ASSOC. NSW Inc.

Telephone 02- 9542 2459

e-mail: secretary@familylaw reform.org. au

Facsimile 02- 9521 3790

Website: www.familylawreform .org.au

P.O. Box 807, SUTHERLAND NSW 1499

"


Sunday, April 19, 2009

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING, WARNING

FAMILYLAWWEBGUIDE WANT YOU TO JOIN THE SRL CLUB BECAUSE THEY WANT YOUR DETAILS. THEY WILL PUSH YOU AND TRY TO FORCE YOU INTO JOINING AND WILL REFUSE TO POST A REPLY TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION UNTIL YOU JOIN. ASK YOURSELF WHY...ASK YOURSELF WHY DO I HAVE TO GIVE MY REAL NAME, PHONE NUMBERS TO BE VERIFIED WITH A PHONE CALL AND DETAILS OF MY CASE TO TOTAL STRANGERS WHO HAVE NO QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER AND VERY LITTLE, IF ANY SUCCESS IN COURT ACTIONS. WARNING BELLS SHOULD BE RINGING IN YOUR HEAD.

HEED THE WARNINGS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND DO NOT JOIN THE SRL WHATEVER YOU DO. THEY ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY QUALIFICATIONS IN LAW, ONLY THEIR OWN UNSUCCESSFUL COURT ACTION AND THEY WILL PASS ON YOUR DETAILS AS THEY HAVE DONE TO OTHER MEMBERS.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

We wonder what role the SRL played in this DeadBeat Dad case?

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/FMCAfam/2009/34.html

Child Support Registrar & Gillies [2009] FMCAfam 34 (21 January 2009)

Last Updated: 6 February 2009

FEDERAL MAGISTRATES COURT OF AUSTRALIA

CHILD SUPPORT REGISTRAR & GILLIES

CHILD SUPPORT – Summary dismissal – enforcement of Orders for payment of child support debt – declaration of debt owed and orders made in 2006 for Respondent to make payment – failed to comply – Respondent seeks summary dismissal on basis of res judicata – Order 33 rule 3(9) – open to child support registrar to seek to enforce payment of unpaid order.


Attorney General (NSW) v Wentworth (1988) 14 NSWLR 481
Blair v Curran [1939] HCA 23; (1939) 62 CLR 464
Bryant v Commonwealth Bank of Australia [1995] FCA 1299; (1995) 130 ALR 129
Chamberlain v Deputy Commissioner of Taxation [1988] HCA 21; (1988) 164 CLR 502
Deputy Child Support Registrar v Harrison (1995) 128 FLR 349
Port of Melbourne Authority v Anshun Pty Ltd [1981] HCA 45; (1981) 147 CLR 589

Applicant:
CHILD SUPPORT REGISTRAR

Respondent:
MR GILLIES

File number:
SYC 1978 of 2008

Judgment of:
Sexton FM

Hearing date:
16 September 2008

Date of last submission:
16 September 2008

Delivered at:
Sydney

Delivered on:
21 January 2009

REPRESENTATION

Solicitors for the Applicant:
Australian Government Solicitors

Respondent:
In person

THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

(1) The Application in a Case, dated 10 May 2008, filed by the Respondent be dismissed.
(2) The proceedings initiated by the Form 46 summons and Form 45B summons be listed for hearing before me at 10.00a.m. on 29 April 2009 for no longer than half a day.
(3) The Respondent produce to the Exhibits section of this Registry no later than 7 days prior to hearing all documents listed in the Schedule to the Form 45B Enforcement Summons dated 8 April 2008.
(4) The Child Support Registrar be granted leave to inspect the documents referred to in (3) and to photocopy those documents.
(5) Any application for costs of these proceedings be adjourned for hearing before me at 10.00a.m. on 29 April 2009.

IT IS NOTED that publication of this judgment under the pseudonym Child Support Registrar & Gillies is approved pursuant to s.121(9)(g) of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth).

FEDERAL MAGISTRATES
COURT OF AUSTRALIA AT
SYDNEY

Monday, April 6, 2009

More Deceit by FLWG, here we name the SRL main players

The site is not a portal for various communities, CRC, SRL, DOTA, DIDS, LFAA, Mothers4Equality are all the same people.

The SRL's treat themselves like the elite of Familylawwebguide. Do you want to know who the main players are? We are sure you all do so here they are:

Who Are The Main PLayers in SRL?


SRL Resources

Head

Michael Green (Agog, Sisyphus)

Primary Members

Paul Saurine (Thad50) Also DIDS
Peter Saxon (Clown, Viking, Conan, Getherealfacts, Sneakydevil) Also DIDS, SPCA, F4E
TheDOCtor

Secondary Members

David Glenmere
Micke Michalek (Monteverdi)
Ian Tuit (Ian Tuit)
Wayne Butler (Oneringrules, Sec SPCA) also DOTA, CRC. SPCA
Jim Carter (lfapolad) also LFAA, SPCA, CRC
Lindsay Jackel (Matrix, Dad4life) also DOTA, SPCA, CRC
Graeme Campbell (oneadadc)
Coral Slattery (Nemos Mum) also SPCA

It is very concerning to see Michael Green head up the Self Represented Litigants Club because he is not allowed to practise law without a current certificate which he doesn't have (easy to check this one) so therefore he is breaking the law.


It has been said by various people who have vigourously tried to deny that the SRL are a part of the Shared Parenting Council and were set up long before familylawwebguide was set up but this list available from an online cached version of the site clearly says that the SRL main players are ONLY members of SPCA. There is only one group controlling the lot and that is SPCA. All of the names are of militant mens rights campaigners and not one of these people are aligned with mothers, women or families. They fight for mens rights. Peter Saxon you are a liar. Anyone be very wary about giving your details to any of the SRL, we have evidence where they used that information inapropriately and the matter is currently under investigation. You have been warned.

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

The Shared parenting council of Australia just want ALL of your details.

See here, they offer you a FREE screensaver, that's it you read right, a FREE screensaver in exchange for ALL of your details. That sounds fair doesn't it? What's that you're saying it doesn't sound fair or right, or morally sound even? Now just why do they want ALL of that information? Why do they insist that you register your details on Familylawwebguide.com.au and urge you to join their SRL enclave and then whine continuously about how busy they are and all you plebs need to wait in line yadda yadda yadda? They want to get your details and they even ring you up to verify you are who you say you are if you join the SRL. We have a good source of information that says that "special" relationship they have with the CSA isn't accidental.
You have been warned!


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